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Antifa, BLM, Occupy Wall Street, Et. Al. / Re: Riots
Last post by tomslick50 -
    Works into the lefts playbook of how to overthrow the social order,, go after the cops, everywhere, city govt,and college authorities (here in chgo when Milo Stephanopoulos wanted to talk to De Paul students) who  sympathise with the left,, overload the social system with non citizens, give them the vote,subvert  and nullify the power of native citizens,,Cloward Piven in Saul Alinsky;s rules for radicals.
get 'legal' support of leftism & their policies form sympathetic judicial appointees.
get the media on your side,colleges and universities have been at it for 40 years I looked for this figure,how many persons graduated from them,in ten cycles,,,LL i could find was percentages,,,,,, could not find that number.
 the left must be stopped, trump seems more inclined to act on it,,,,
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Pictures / Re: Beautiful Pictures of the day
Last post by tomslick50 -
astounding architecture in amritsar, 3k years old?
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American Politics / Re: Trump-Russia Dossier
Last post by tomslick50 -
easier to just post related info from the url,,,,,,, obama doj and deblasio suppressed nypd documents in muslim terror & how they prevented some 60 attacks since 9/11 2k1
https://nypost.com/2017/04/15/the-purge-of-a-report-on-radical-islam-has-put-nyc-at-risk/
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Pictures / Re: Beautiful Pictures of the day
Last post by Diego Cordero -

An Attacus atlas butterfly sits on the face of a visitor to the Botanical Garden of Masaryk University in Brno, Czech RepublicPicture: RADEK MICA/AFP/Getty Images


The Munich Oktoberfest, which began on September 20 this year, is a huge crowd-puller and justly lays claim to being the largest of its kind in the world. Last year more than six million people attended, between them consuming 6.7 million litres of beer and eating more than 114 oxen. The festival spans just over two weeks and is held annually in a meadow just outside Munich's city centre. In addition to eating, drinking and dancing, visitors can enjoy colourful parades, a variety of fairground rides - and for those not themselves in traditional Bavarian gear, admire those that are.


Visitors enjoy the atmosphere at Augustiner Beer tent after the Parade of Costumes and Riflemen (Trachten- und Schuetzenzug)
Picture: Getty Images


A waitress carries 11 liters of beer in the Hofbraeu tent during the 181st Oktoberfest in Munich
Picture: EPA/MARC MUELLER


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PART TWO: PAST CONFLICTS

Wars since 1941 in Latin America
When discussing whether or not South America is headed towards an arms race, or already involved in one, tend to raise fears of an eventual interstate conflict. However, it is often overlooked that wars between Latin America nations have seldom occurred since World War II, but they have come close to beginning several times. Here is a brief listing of them:

1) 1941: A three-day war between Peru and Ecuador. Ecuadorian troops invaded northern Peru but were successfully repelled. The Peruvian army took the offensive and temporarily occupied the Ecuadorian province known as El Oro.


2) 1969: The "Soccer War" or "100 Hour War" between Honduras and El Salvador.


3) 1981 and 1995: Conflict broke out between Peru and Ecuador. Military operations occurred but were short lived only lasting a few weeks at a time and casualties were relatively minor. The hostilities were limited to specific areas in the border highlands in Paquisha and Cenepa.

4) 1982: The Falklands War/Guerra de las Malvinas. Though one of the combatants was not a Latin American state, this war is still worth mentioning. Argentina, then under military junta, decided to invade the Malvinas (Falklands), which had been a matter of dispute for decades with the United Kingdom. The UK forces defeated Argentines, and speeding the dissolution of the Argentina junta and expedited the country's return to civilian rule.


5) U.S. military operations: For the sake of argument, it is worth mentioning that the U.S. carried out military operations in the Dominican Republic in 1965, Grenada in 1983 and Panama in 1989.

6) Also, it should be noted that the last "great" conflict in South America was the Chaco War in 1932-35.

Historic Conflicts
As different analyses of the mounting arms race point out, there are some ongoing disputes between different South American countries, especially between Venezuela (at heads of state and upper governmental levels) and Colombia; between Peru and Chile; Bolivia and Chile and Argentina and Chile; just to name a few. Below is a brief list of ongoing tensions and disputes between Latin American countries:

1) Peru and Chile: Historical tensions tracing back to the 19th century War of the Pacific include an ongoing Santiago-initiated dispute over the maritime border between the neighbouring countries.

2) Bolivia and Chile: La Paz presses demands that Chile should return the coastal territories it has occupied since the War of the Pacific.


3) Argentina and Chile: Both countries dispute their exact borders; there is a disagreement about the dividing line along the Southern Patagonian ice fields. In 1894, the countries signed a Peace and Friendship Treaty. However, in 1978 the countries seemed to be drifting towards war, but the Pope intervened and mediated the fracas. It is all but certain that Pinochet provided Margaret Thatcher's government with intelligence that helped London defeat Argentina in the Falklands War (discussed at the end of part three). There is ongoing tension between Argentina and Chile over the Antarctic, due to Chile and England having overlapping claims on Argentine Antarctic claims


4) Peru and Ecuador: Even though there has not been warfare between the two countries since the 1995 incident in the Cenepa region and the resulting 1998 Treaty, tensions have occasionally arisen. Peru is preoccupied over the fact that Ecuador is a close ally of Chile, Peru's historical nemesis.

5) Venezuela and Guyana: Caracas historically has claimed up to 1/3 of Guyanese territory, dating back to the end of the 19th century. In 1966, after a tripartite agreement between Venezuela, Guyana and the United Kingdom, Venezuelan soldiers and civilians entered Guyanese territory, namely the Guyanese side of the Ankoko Island. The Venezuelans built an airstrip there, as well as a military outpost. In February 1970, Venezuelan and Guyanese soldiers engaged in a firefight, though no injuries were reported. Fears of a Venezuelan build-up at the time did not translate into major military operations. In 2007, a Venezuelan general and 36 soldiers entered Guyanese territory apparently with the intention of blowing up an improvised dam set up by illegal gold diggers. It was never confirmed why this operation took place, and whether Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez had given the order to enter Guyana.

6) Guatemala and Belize: These countries have a historical boarder dispute in which Guatemala claims major amounts of Belizean territory. Land claims have moderated however, as conciliatory discussions have taken place over the past few decades. Belize declared independence from its protector, the United Kingdom in 1975, but Guatemala only recognized Belize as a sovereign entity in 1994. However, the two countries have never lapsed into armed conflict against each other.

7) Colombia and Nicaragua: Both countries claim the ownership of the San Andres and Providencia Islands.

8) Bolivia and Paraguay: While these countries have had amicable relations for the most part, military build-ups have caused some concern due to the persisting memory of the bloody 1932-1935 Chaco War. Bolivia became concerned after Paraguay hosted a number of military exercises with U.S. National Guard units. More recently, Paraguay asked for more information about Bolivian military purchases from Russia and China after news began to circulate of a $100 million credit issued by Moscow for the purpose of weapons' acquisitions mentioned after in this article.

Next: PART THREE: Close Calls and the South Atlantic War
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I sat down the other day and thought that it would be a good idea to write a brief history of South America and the interrelationships between each nation, so over this next week I will fatigue you all with my end less dribble of a university professor. But hopefully we will all learn a bit more about this section of the world that is as misunderstood as the African continent.

I will divide the presentation into several sections that will include a history of the past conflicts in the region and the relationships between nations; arms purchases and domestic production; and finally what the future may hold. I will try to be as un-bias as possible. I would like making this educational and open for discussion. Hope you all enjoy. As always it is a pleasure to openly debate topics on this forum. Thanks.


PART ONE: BRIEF BACKGROUND
In 2011 then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton criticized then Venezuela's leader Hugo Chavez for his extravagant purchases of Russian and Chinese military equipment, arguing that this could begin a cascading arms race in South America. The statement has added fuel to the ongoing discussions about what direction South America's rearmament, or arms increase, is taking and what this could come to mean for the security of the region. Some people, including myself, fear an inter-state war could break out due to long standing feuds, an increase in force projection and geopolitical tensions.


Venezuelan Su-30 on flyby

The ongoing reports about major purchases by Venezuela, Brazil, and Chile tend to blur the actual geo-security situation in the region, as several countries -- with Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay as the most prominent examples; have carried out only limited military acquisitions. The common perception is that an arms race raises the possibility of conflict. However, the reality in South America (and Central America as well) is that interstate warfare has seldom occurred since World War II; it has come very close at times (we will discuss this later) Additionally, it is misleading to assume that all South American countries are carrying out their arms purchases with the same gusto as Brazil, Chile, and Venezuela.


Chilean F-16 preparing for training mission

It is generally assumed, by most outsiders, that South America is either already engaged in an arms race or is about to enter one. This view is somewhat inconsistent because the start of an arms race is not easily defined, though one could say I was when Venezuela purchased Su-30s or Chile Purchased F-16s. It could also be argued that what is occurring is not so much a general arms race as it is a product of certain militaries capitalizing on weak civilian governments (like an updated version of former Uruguayan President Bordaberry in 1973) to increase their defence budgets. Furthermore, in spite of domestic security issues in several South American countries, most notably the insurgent movements in Colombia and Peru, the reality is that full scale interstate wars in the region have been notably scarce in the past few decades, which raises the question: is interstate warfare necessarily the future of South America? We will discuss whether an arms race could lead to general warfare in future instalments, maybe later this evening or tomorrow.
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Antifa, BLM, Occupy Wall Street, Et. Al. / Riots
Last post by Diego Cordero -
Protester Gameday: Was Liberal Politics To Blame For The Violence In Charlottesville?

The Daily Caller
Henry Rodgers, Political Reporter
1:19 PM 12/02/2017

[Too short to excerpt]

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The Daily Caller News Foundation breaks down the new bombshell report regarding the violence that occurred in Charlottesville, Va., on Aug. 12 in a must-watch episode the of the show "Protester Gameday."

Two DCNF reporters discussed the new report released Friday morning by the city of Charlottesville, which detailed a series of failures by the Charlottesville Police and Charlottesville City Council that helped contribute to violence at a white nationalist rally in August, a report released Friday details.

The new report explained that the death of Heather Heyer was due in part to mistakes made by the city council and Charlottesville police.

The DCNF was on scene in Charlottesville on August 12 and discuss the new information released in the 220 page report in the new episode.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/02/protester-gameday-was-liberal-politics-to-blame-for-the-violence-in-charlottesville/
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American Politics / Re: Trump-Russia Dossier
Last post by Diego Cordero -
Robert Mueller, Agent of Willful Ignorance

http://www.frontpagemag.com
Robert Spencer
November 28, 2017


It has come to light that as director of the FBI, Robert Mueller, who is currently the special counsel looking for any dirt he can find on Donald Trump, presided over the 2012 removal of all counterterror training materials of any mention of Islam and jihad in connection with terrorism. Since then, our law enforcement and intelligence officials have been blundering along in self-imposed darkness about the motivating ideology behind the jihad threat. This, it turns out, was Mueller's doing.

In February 2012, the Obama Administration purged more than one thousand documents and presentations from counter-terror training material for the FBI and other agencies. This material was discarded at the demand of Muslim groups, which had deemed it inaccurate or offensive to Muslims.

This purge was several years in the making, and I was - inadvertently - the one who touched it off. In August 2010, when I gave a talk on Islam and jihad to the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force -- one of many such talks I gave to government agencies and military groups in those years. While some had counseled me to keep these talks quiet so as to avoid attracting the ire of the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the possibility of that pressure seemed to me to make it all the more important to announce my appearances publicly, so as to show that the U.S. government was not going to take dictation from a group linked to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Those who had urged silence were proven correct, however, for the Obama administration was indeed disposed to take dictation from CAIR. CAIR sent a series of letters to Mueller and others demanding that I be dropped as a counter-terror trainer; the organization even started a "coalition" echoing this demand, and Jesse Jackson and other Leftist luminaries joined it.

At the FBI, Mueller made no public comment on CAIR's demand, and so it initially appeared that CAIR's effort had failed. But I was never again invited to provide counter-terror training for any government agency, after having done so fairly regularly for the previous five years. CAIR's campaign to keep me from taking part in counter-terror training was, of course, not personal. They targeted me simply because I told the truth, just as they would target anyone else who dared do so.

Although Mueller was publicly silent, now we know that he was not unresponsive. And the Islamic supremacists and their Leftist allies didn't give up. In the summer and fall of 2011, the online tech journal Wired published several "exposés" by far-Left journalist Spencer Ackerman, who took the FBI to task for training material that spoke forthrightly and truthfully about the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat.

In a typical sally from one of these exposés, Ackerman condemned the training material for intimating that mainstream American Muslims were "likely to be terrorist sympathizers." Certainly all the mainstream Muslim organizations condemn al-Qaeda and 9/11; however, as we have seen, some of the foremost of those organizations, such as ISNA, MAS, ICNA, the MSA, CAIR, and others, have links of various kinds to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. A mainstream Muslim spokesman in the U.S., Ground Zero Mosque Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, refused to condemn Hamas until it became too politically damaging for him not to do so; another, CAIR's Nihad Awad, openly declared his support for Hamas in 1994. Other mainstream Muslim spokesmen in the U.S., such as Obama's ambassador to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, Rashad Hussain, and media gadfly Hussein Ibish, have praised and defended Sami al-Arian, the confessed leader of another jihad terror group, Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

Do these men and organizations represent a tiny minority of extremists that actually does not express the opinions of the broad mainstream of Muslims in this country? Maybe, but there simply are no counterparts -- no individuals of comparable influence or groups of comparable size -- that have not expressed sympathy for some Islamic terror group.

Nonetheless, in the face of Ackerman's reports, the FBI went into full retreat. In September 2011 it announced that it was dropping one of the programs that Ackerman had zeroed in on.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268542/robert-mueller-agent-willful-ignorance-robert-spencer